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Oh, another thing. I'm using about 1 terabyte of data per month over the home internet plan. That's 1000 gigabytes (well a bit more than that if we're being technical :)). This is a small sample size - just about 3 weeks worth -- but that's close.
Over your new cellular plan allowance? Do they soak you with charges for going over?
 

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Over your new cellular plan allowance? Do they soak you with charges for going over?
No, not at all, Cynthia. T-Mobile's home internet is unlimited data, which again is analogous to my cable service. It's treated like a separate "line" on the service. So, my T-Mobile bill comprises 2 lines for my 55+ plan cellphones ($70/mo) and a third "line" for the home internet ($40/mo).
 

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So, the rub is that in many cases you need your old email address to be working so that you can make the change to a new address! My old cable company hasn't cut off my email yet, but I really should've done this before cancelling. Anyway, gang, forewarned is forearmed! It's painful, but if you don't make those changes you will likely lose control of some of your web site accounts. I have about 50 of them out there, some of which I'm orphaning, but most have to come with me.
So, finally, I have gone through all my personal internet accounts and changed the contact information away from my old cable company-provided address. After about 25 years of using that old one as my primary email address, that was a lot of work!

But, the good news is that the cable company gave me a reasonable grace period (about 2 months) which allowed me to complete the switchover. Funny enough, the only account I couldn't fix was my login on the Acoustic Guitar Forum, where apparently I don't have privileges to change my own information :) Oh well, I never go there anyway. :)
 

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So, just checking in. It's a lot of months later, and I'm still delighted with my T-Mobile home internet. The service has been terrific, and at $40/mo on top of my T-Mobile cellphone plan (Magenta 55+, $70/mo for 2-lines) it's been a great cost-saving to me. I've been using 1.2 - 1.5TB (that's terabytes, not gigabytes) per month because I stream a lot of TV. No interruptions of service, and no throttling that I can notice. Download/upload speeds are comparable/better than my cable ever provided.

I'm a little ticked off that T-Mobile is trying to draw me into other "plans" which I do not need, and if you're a senior they've created a pretty limited availability of plans and discounts compared to where they were a couple of years ago when I got on my current phone plan.

Anyway, I still highly recommend this for folks who are interested.
 

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Only during outages. Hot spot on phone worked well enough in a pinch.
 

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Only during outages. Hot spot on phone worked well enough in a pinch.
Don't try putting your TV on your phone's hot spot, Woody. Well, I guess it depends on your plan. In my case, T-Mobile will definitely throttle that data traffic on your phone(s) in short order. As for my home internet "line," no. :)
 

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So, just checking in. It's a lot of months later, and I'm still delighted with my T-Mobile home internet. The service has been terrific, and at $40/mo on top of my T-Mobile cellphone plan (Magenta 55+, $70/mo for 2-lines) it's been a great cost-saving to me. I've been using 1.2 - 1.5TB (that's terabytes, not gigabytes) per month because I stream a lot of TV. No interruptions of service, and no throttling that I can notice. Download/upload speeds are comparable/better than my cable ever provided.

I'm a little ticked off that T-Mobile is trying to draw me into other "plans" which I do not need, and if you're a senior they've created a pretty limited availability of plans and discounts compared to where they were a couple of years ago when I got on my current phone plan.

Anyway, I still highly recommend this for folks who are interested.
I have T-Mobile as well and my only complaint is they change my IP address every few weeks which then requires me to call Hulu to have them change it also so I can use their service
 

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I have T-Mobile as well and my only complaint is they change my IP address every few weeks which then requires me to call Hulu to have them change it also so I can use their service
How weird. Are you using a smart TV to connect to Hulu through your T-Mobile home internet, Wilmy? I gave up Hulu recently, but will probably reinstate them in a couple of months when I want to run through Futurama again.
 

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As a veer/sideline, I thought I'd pass along some information I've learned about T-Mobile, etc. over the past couple of years...

T-Mobile is primarily a "roaming" provider. They bought Sprint a while back, so they have that. But what a "roaming provider" really is, basically, is one where the actual presence (of cellphone antennae) in the cell network is pretty spotty throughout the country. The way they make this work is that they have deals in place -- which are not publicly disclosed, by the way -- with other big cellular equipment owners (AT&T, Verizon, etc.) that allow me/you to use my phone everywhere. Even more interesting is that my home internet connection is not going through T-Mobile's equipment at the cell tower! I'm not sure who actually provides it, but I think it's Verizon. That's ironic, but more about that later.

Apparently, the carriers do this to seamlessly allow people like me (somewhat rural) to have very good cell coverage and somehow one hand washes the other here. I'm imagining that ultimately this costs T-Mobile less than it would otherwise to operate their own equipment at the tower, but I don't really know the economics of this. All I know is that I'm taking advantage of it and happy to do so.

Having said all that about roaming provider(s), T-Mobile does have a significant presence in certain areas. For example, for me, Boston proper... where you can be on T-Mobile's native network all day long. But, does it matter??? Excellent question, Charlie....

I spend a lot of time in the San Francisco Bay Area, and that area is almost completely monopolized by AT&T. It's really important to me that my phone works seamlessly when I want to use it to make calls or even provide a hot spot for my computer in the BA. Well, it sure does. And that's because AT&T allows T-Mobile customers to roam all over their network. Thank goodness!

Anyway, I hope that's been interesting to some of you.

Oh, yeah, they irony of Verizon. Several years ago I was delighted to get rid of Verizon as my mobile carrier and I've never missed a beat since I moved to T-Mobile. Now with my home internet, I'm pumping ~1.5TB per month through Verizon's wireless at a very low cost (thanks to T-Mobile). Well..... That's because I'm roaming on Verizon's network as a T-Mobile client. Except when I'm in Boston when I get native T-Mobile (really Sprint, I think).

Any questions? :D
 

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Don't try putting your TV on your phone's hot spot, Woody. Well, I guess it depends on your plan. In my case, T-Mobile will definitely throttle that data traffic on your phone(s) in short order. As for my home internet "line," no. :)
Just my laptop for work if there's an outage. Sometimes it doesn't work.
 

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How weird. Are you using a smart TV to connect to Hulu through your T-Mobile home internet, Wilmy? I gave up Hulu recently, but will probably reinstate them in a couple of months when I want to run through Futurama again.
It is strange, I use a Roku box. The connection goes T-mobile receiver - linksys router - Roku - Samsung TV all connected via ethernet cables.
I spoke with a friend in FL who is familiar with this stuff and he says it's because of the Live TV aspect of my Hulu + Live TV
It does not affect my other streaming services and he also says all wireless internet providers do this for some reason he doesn't know, but I suspect it has something to with your description above of T-mobile being largely parasitic.
 

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It is strange, I use a Roku box. The connection goes T-mobile receiver - linksys router - Roku - Samsung TV all connected via ethernet cables.
I spoke with a friend in FL who is familiar with this stuff and he says it's because of the Live TV aspect of my Hulu + Live TV
It does not affect my other streaming services and he also says all wireless internet providers do this for some reason he doesn't know, but I suspect it has something to with your description above of T-mobile being largely parasitic.
That's gotta be it, Wilmy. It's LiveTV. Give LiveTV a call; I'll bet you are not the only one experiencing this. Straight up Hulu (without Live TV) works fine on my setup. I have my T-Mobile gateway driving my Linksys Velop (mesh) wi-fi in the house. My Roku is plugged in (via enet cable) into one of my Velop stations. Anyway, this business of the IP address changing is the way all providers work (unless you pay them big $$ for static IPs)... It has nothing to do with your home setup. Your setup is completely "normal" from my point of view. It's gotta' be Hulu.

Maybe there's a setup option on the Roku box to deal properly with dynamic IP address changes, but that should be the default behavior.

Keep me/us posted.
 

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That's gotta be it, Wilmy. It's LiveTV. Give LiveTV a call; I'll bet you are not the only one experiencing this. Straight up Hulu (without Live TV) works fine on my setup. I have my T-Mobile gateway driving my Linksys Velop (mesh) wi-fi in the house. My Roku is plugged in (via enet cable) into one of my Velop stations. Anyway, this business of the IP address changing is the way all providers work (unless you pay them big $$ for static IPs)... It has nothing to do with your home setup. Your setup is completely "normal" from my point of view. It's gotta' be Hulu.

Maybe there's a setup option on the Roku box to deal properly with dynamic IP address changes, but that should be the default behavior.

Keep me/us posted.
I have spoken with Hulu+liveTV about it and they say it's the IP changing and I check it and it has, every time. It's their way of making sure someone else uses my login info
 

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I have spoken with Hulu+liveTV about it and they say it's the IP changing and I check it and it has, every time. It's their way of making sure someone else uses my login info
Oh, OK. Well, that's not an answer, IMO; IP addresses are going to change. I guess they don't care. You'd think a streaming service would.

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Late to the party ....

For people struggling with low bandwidth, latency, and older hardware (routers, computers), Steven Black's hosts file(s) can sometimes help, at a cost.


It is a bit of a double edged sword.

It sets thousands of host/domain names to an IP address of 0.0.0.0 blocking access to those hosts. The hosts are trackers, ad servers, malware servers, etc.

It slows browser performance slightly, a negative.

But it can stop or mitigate issues with Youtube or streaming or general web performance.

For example, I have an old HP Netbook with an Intel Atom proc. It will no longer run any contemporary "full" operating system well enough for it to be useful. With something lean like Sparky Linux, it mostly functions, but with Youtube videos, there are problems. There is skipping and stuttering. There is freezing when cache is depleted. Sometimes audio will continue with a black screen. With the use of the hosts file, these problems disappear. Blocking "extraneous" connections frees up resources.

So what are the costs?

Some mainstream websites will not work, either not at all or only partially.

And there is an ethical cost. Many of the "extraneous" connections to your computer are not "extraneous" to the service provider whose content you are watching/using. The connections are often part of their revenue stream, and you are ripping them off with the use of the modified hosts file.
 
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Late to the party ....

For people struggling with low bandwidth, latency, and older hardware (routers, computers), Steven Black's hosts file(s) can sometimes help, at a cost.


It is a bit of a double edged sword.

It sets thousands of host/domain names to an IP address of 0.0.0.0 blocking access to those hosts. The hosts are trackers, ad servers, malware servers, etc.

It slows browser performance slightly, a negative.

But it can stop or mitigate issues with Youtube or streaming or general web performance.

For example, I have an old HP Netbook with an Intel Atom proc. It will no longer run any contemporary "full" operating system well enough for it to be useful. With something lean like Sparky Linux, it mostly functions, but with Youtube videos, there are problems. There is skipping and stuttering. There is freezing when cache is depleted. Sometimes audio will continue with a black screen. With the use of the hosts file, these problems disappear. Blocking "extraneous" connections, frees up resources.

So what are the costs?

Some mainstream websites will not work, either not at all or only partially.

And there is an ethical cost. Many of the "extraneous" connections to your computer are not "extraneous" to the service provider whose video content you are watching/using. The connections are often part of their revenue stream, and you are ripping them off with the use of the modified hosts file.
Canard, does this have anything to do with cellular home internet, or is this some kind of veer?

Sorry, I'm not getting the connection at all.
 

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Oh, OK. Well, that's not an answer, IMO; IP addresses are going to change. I guess they don't care. You'd think a streaming service would.

:)
I think it's valid - I went to Myrtle Beach and the hotel had Hulu+liveTV on the TV but I could not access it with my login info. I could access Hulu but not LiveTV
 
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Canard, does this have anything to do with cellular home internet, or is this some kind of veer?

Sorry, I'm not getting the connection at all.
A bit of a veer but not entirely off tangent.

This thread discusses the problems of rural(ish) connections and bandwidth/latency issues over more limited means of connection.
 

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Late to the party ....

For people struggling with low bandwidth, latency, and older hardware (routers, computers), Steven Black's hosts file(s) can sometimes help, at a cost.


It is a bit of a double edged sword.

It sets thousands of host/domain names to an IP address of 0.0.0.0 blocking access to those hosts. The hosts are trackers, ad servers, malware servers, etc.

It slows browser performance slightly, a negative.

But it can stop or mitigate issues with Youtube or streaming or general web performance.

For example, I have an old HP Netbook with an Intel Atom proc. It will no longer run any contemporary "full" operating system well enough for it to be useful. With something lean like Sparky Linux, it mostly functions, but with Youtube videos, there are problems. There is skipping and stuttering. There is freezing when cache is depleted. Sometimes audio will continue with a black screen. With the use of the hosts file, these problems disappear. Blocking "extraneous" connections, frees up resources.

So what are the costs?

Some mainstream websites will not work, either not at all or only partially.

And there is an ethical cost. Many of the "extraneous" connections to your computer are not "extraneous" to the service provider whose content you are watching/using. The connections are often part of their revenue stream, and you are ripping them off with the use of the modified hosts file.
I don’t know of a way to change host files don’t work on TVs.

Note also that Chrome has a habit of completely bypassing local host files.
 
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