Fat tire e-bike coming soon...

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This will be the first bike of any kind that I've ever had with disc brakes... Makes sense, Br1ck! Thanks.
 

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The bike's in Gallup on it's way through FedEx ground. They can't ship by any other method given the batteries, apparently.
 

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I hope you enjoy your fat tire e-bike! I am a cyclist and e-bikes can be a heated topic. I am all for e-bikes if they get more people out cycling and getting in shape! Enjoy!
 

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I've gotta put air in my bicycle tires!! I'll do it later today. Here it's flat and easy to pedal. And this time of year, it's cool enough. I'm just lazy..... My bike is great. It's a Novara Transfer. 7 speeds in the hub. So easy, modern and civilized!!

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And it has whitewalls!!
 

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This will be the first bike of any kind that I've ever had with disc brakes... Makes sense, Br1ck! Thanks.
I have a bike with disc brakes and they stop like nobody’s business. I question the need for them on road bikes but that’s only because I don’t yet trust hydraulics on what (for me) has always been a strictly mechanical thing. They’ve never been a problem for me but that bike spends most of the year on a trainer.
 

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I have a bike with disc brakes and they stop like nobody’s business. I question the need for them on road bikes but that’s only because I don’t yet trust hydraulics on what (for me) has always been a strictly mechanical thing. They’ve never been a problem for me but that bike spends most of the year on a trainer.
Timely thread given that I just changed the fluid and bled the disc brakes on one of my bikes this morning! Getting ready for the sunshine this weekend in NYC.

I have disc brakes on a few of my road and mountain bikes. They make a huge difference with carbon rims in the wet. Much more reliable stopping power. Also nice with carbon rims as nothing is wearing down the rim surface every time you brake. Especially in the winter with all of the grit on the roads. The carbon rims also don’t heat up which can be an issue on really long mountain descents on rim brakes (especially if you are with a group as there is always somebody being more cautious than me causing me to brake more often). I heated up a front carbon rim coming down a long descent in Spain on rim brakes that blew the front inner tube and warped the brake surface of the carbon wheel! At least it was the last day of my trip and I was able to limp it back home. This never would have happened with disc brakes. Newer carbon resin is better with heat and these rims were the previous generation of resin.

The only things I don’t like is the extra maintenance and it makes it more difficult to change bars and such with internal routing of the hydraulic lines.
 

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I have a bike with disc brakes and they stop like nobody’s business. I question the need for them on road bikes but that’s only because I don’t yet trust hydraulics on what (for me) has always been a strictly mechanical thing. They’ve never been a problem for me but that bike spends most of the year on a trainer.
I think to get the stopping power for a 75lb fat bike, hydraulic disc is the way to go, GAD. Of course, cable-actuated is doable, but probably not as good for this application. At least that's some of what I've read.

I'll let you know about the stopping power of this beast when I get it!
They make a huge difference with carbon rims in the wet.
Wow, super good point, Brad. Not relevant to this fat bike (with aluminum rims), but I imagine pull brakes on carbon rims would be a non starter.
 

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I think to get the stopping power for a 75lb fat bike, hydraulic disc is the way to go, GAD. Of course, cable-actuated is doable, but probably not as good for this application. At least that's some of what I've read.

I'll let you know about the stopping power of this beast when I get it!

Wow, super good point, Brad. Not relevant to this fat bike (with aluminum rims), but I imagine pull brakes on carbon rims would be a non starter.

75 POUNDS! Holy moly. I think both of my bikes and all my bike paraphernalia combined doesn't way 75 pounds. Well... Maybe with the roof rack. :)
 

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75 POUNDS! Holy moly. I think both of my bikes and all my bike paraphernalia combined doesn't way 75 pounds. Well... Maybe with the roof rack. :)
Yeah, it's a monster, GAD. The first fat bikes I ever tried (15 years ago??) were probably 40 pounds or more. That and the fat tires make them pretty difficult to use and impossible for real trail rides. Yeah, most of the fat e-bikes are in this range, GAD. The battery itself weighs something like 15 pounds. I'll weigh it when I get it. :)

Oh, and you can forget about a roof rack for one of these. I'll use a hitch-based rack when the time comes.
 

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Congrats chazmo. That looks pretty cool, I hope you enjoy it. Looking forward to hearing more once you are up and running.
 

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Yeah, it's a monster, GAD. The first fat bikes I ever tried (15 years ago??) were probably 40 pounds or more. That and the fat tires make them pretty difficult to use and impossible for real trail rides. Yeah, most of the fat e-bikes are in this range, GAD. The battery itself weighs something like 15 pounds. I'll weigh it when I get it. :)

Oh, and you can forget about a roof rack for one of these. I'll use a hitch-based rack when the time comes.

Fascinating. I’ve seen them on beaches and pics of people with them on snow, and as someone else said, they’re really common for delivery in NYC.
 

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Fascinating. I’ve seen them on beaches and pics of people with them on snow, and as someone else said, they’re really common for delivery in NYC.
Juiced sells this really awesome wood crate to go on the rack. Gotta' have it for delivering in NYC. Gotta say, that's a far cry from the crazy dudes using one-speed road bikes... Who needs brakes anyway?
 

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As Chaz points out, cruising a modern 17lb road bike on 24mm on the tarmac vs stomping on a 120 mm fat tire up a rocky single track in the Pacific Coast Range is a profound difference. I was kind of sceptical of e-bikes until I actually rode one. Our bike sharing program is equipped with e-bikes, and in hilly Portland, it truly helps get around. I appreciate them for commuting in this town.

Discs brakes are awesome. My trusty old commuter is a 90s steel lugged Trek, so I still need to swap out the front fork and use some frame adapter trickery to mount discs.
 

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As Chaz points out, cruising a modern 17lb road bike on 24mm on the tarmac vs stomping on a 120 mm fat tire up a rocky single track in the Pacific Coast Range is a profound difference. I was kind of sceptical of e-bikes until I actually rode one. Our bike sharing program is equipped with e-bikes, and in hilly Portland, it truly helps get around. I appreciate them for commuting in this town.

Discs brakes are awesome. My trusty old commuter is a 90s steel lugged Trek, so I still need to swap out the front fork and use some frame adapter trickery to mount discs.
Hey, jp, even if I'm not climbing Mt. Tamalpais the way I used to, there are a ton of (relatively mild) trails here that make it worthwhile. Frankly, road biking is not my passion. Trails, baby. That's the way to go!

Bike sharing. Now there's a thought that never crossed my mind. Of course, I live in (relative) sticks compared to Portland.
 
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Not really, guys. I understand your point, but as an avid mountain biker I beg to differ.
Depends on usage. Around here they are ridden as eMopeds. I have never seen one being pedaled while ridden. What's the top speed of your bike?

If you are not pedaling up the mountain, is it still even a bicycle?
 

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IN NYC lots of people ride e-bikes on teh west side Hudson River path where it is clearly marked no motorized or electric vehicles. It would be OK if they weren't jamming down teh past at 20 something mph.

We rented e-bikes in NOLA and I did not love it at all.

I too am, or used to be an avid mountain biker. Since all my friends have dropped out of teh sport and my wife broke her elbow winter before last we have not been riding the trails much. Hope to get back out this spring...though I used to ride through winter I am no a fair weather rider.

I've rented fat tire bikes whole on ski trips and they are fun in teh snow but you need a packed trail.

Charlie, Why did you go fat tire? Smoother ride? Our local trails are pretty rocky and rooty and I'm getting too old for that shyte. We have to drive an hour + to get to anything smooth.

Thinking about eventually getting and e-bike. WIfe sys not until I'm 70.

I do know some folks who have e-mountain bikes, not fat tire, and they say they still get good exercise and they enjoy going on longer rides.

Our mtb's have disc brakes. Much better!
 

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Depends on usage. Around here they are ridden as eMopeds. I have never seen one being pedaled while ridden. What's the top speed of your bike?

If you are not pedaling up the mountain, is it still even a bicycle?
Gotcha'. Well, that's too bad for them, but good for me. I am champing at the bit waiting for this thing so I can ride again!

Top speed is probably around 35? I don't know yet. I think it's 20 in some of the governed speed modes. In any case, it's up to the rider. Well, at least Juiced (the bike company) makes all options available to make best use of the bike. The rider is supposed to ride within whatever speeds are legit. I'm sorry the f**kers around you are being turds on theirs. I'm pretty sure I'll be pedaling all the time, Kurt. The only times I ride really fast are when no pedestrians/equestrians are around. Back in the day, I got a speeding ticket on my mountain bike from the water cops in Marin County. It was kind of a badge of honor. F**kers radared us on the back side of Mt. Tam (completely wide open space). NOT urban legend! :D

For me, it should enable me to ride trails (again) and have fun in the woods.

I bought the upgraded controller for the bike which gives me full access to all the bike's potential. I can ride for hours with the power at hand. Can't wait. TUESDAY!! This is way better than an NGD for me.
 
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