Finally Home F612 NGD!!

[charliea]

In 1972 I was making $8,000 and thought it was a pretty good job. Bought a VW beetle for, as I remember, $1,600. $1,000 was a staggering amount to pay for a guitar.

 

[Westerly Wood]

Hi- I inquired about one in'74 and was told they were special order items and list was 1500; shortly after they were discontinued. Thanks

thanks for the info, this is awesome.

 

[Westerly Wood]

In 1972 I was making $8,000 and thought it was a pretty good job. Bought a VW beetle for, as I remember, $1,600. $1,000 was a staggering amount to pay for a guitar.

I could see you as being an F612 owner though Charlie. Surprised you are not. You have every other cool Guild 12 string.

 

[wileypickett]

As some of you know around 3 months ago I got the chance of a lifetime to purchase a 1971 F612. After the month long wait to get her into the shop for repairs and the 2 month wait for her to actually have the work done she is officially home. I figured she needed a proper NGD!

What a knockout!

What are the rarest Guilds that saw regular production, I wonder? (Acoustics, non-custom shop.) And how many can we account for today? (We'll surely need your assistance on this Hans!) And how many are owned by LTGers? Add to the list!


F612 -- made: 18 / accounted for: 10 / owned by LTGers: ?
JV72 -- made: 20 / accounted for: 1? / owned by LTGers: 1
GV70 -- made: 59 / accounted for: ? / owned by LTGers: 2?

 

[richardp69]

If ya got any spare pills send 'em along brother. I can think up some pain to use 'em on. Oh year, good luck on your matchmaking as well.

OK, I know it is a long shot but I left the Orpheum Jumbo and the F612 on Stands next to each other in the back room. I turned the lights down low, Put on some Barry White, and gave them some privacy. :couple_inlove: If the chemistry is good, I am hoping to hear the pitter patter of little guitars before long. If this experiment works I plan on Hooking up The Brazilian D55 and the Orpheum 12 Fret Slope! Can't hurt to try right? I apologize but the pain pills are kicking in on the shoulder right now and my mind ain't quite right.

 

[GardMan]

What are the rarest Guilds that saw regular production, I wonder? (Acoustics, non-custom shop.) And how many can we account for today? (We'll surely need your assistance on this Hans!) And how many are owned by LTGers? Add to the list!

I'm pretty sure we have been thru at least part of this exercise before... and the terms "rare" and "regular production" are somewhat counter to each other ("oxymoronic?"). It also would depend on what constitutes a "model"... also w/o the ledgers that Hans has, the rest of us would be speculating (for the most part) based on the published SN lists... we all know how inaccurate those lists can be.

The DV-72 model is a good example of two such issues...

The published SN lists include AD72 SNs up to 197 in 1994. However, DV-72s were also made in 1993, with SNs beginning with LK. These LK SNs do not appear in any of the published lists I have seen. I have seen LK SNs at least to #18 (which is currently for sale on Reverb or GBase; and someone on LTG has one of the LK DV-72s)... so I would assume that at least 215 DV-72s were manufactured between 1993 and 1994. If asked, I'd peg the number of DV-72s at <250. [added: saw an old post from Hans that suggested ~250 DV-72s were produced]

Also, most of those DV-72s were made with turquoise inlays. DV-72s were also made with malachite (I have one, I have seen pics of a different one in a collection in Japan, and West saw two years ago in a shop in Houston... that's between 2-4 accounted for) and coral (we have seen pics of just one). I asked Hans if he knew the numbers of non-turquoise DV-72s, and he replied there was no notation in the ledgers to indicate which guitars got which trim. Based on the numbers I have seen sell on eBay/GBase, etc, I would guess that <25 DV-72s were made with malachite or coral inlays. Do they constitute a "rare" model?

I thought about setting up a poll to count the number of different DV-7X (by model) owned by LTGers... (I once thought about setting up a poll to see how well LTG sampled ALL dread models... until I compiled a list of Westerly dread models and discovered how many different models there were! polls are limited to 10 items).

As far as dreads go... "rarer" models (according to SNs) might include the "official" limited editions: the DV-7X models (<250 DV-72s, ~50 DV-73s, <25 DV-74s, ~10 DV-76s) and the DV-82 (just one SN listed), the D-70 (<300... does that really constitute limited?), D-80 (<30?), and D-100 (<200 if every SN was assigned?). Not in the SN lists would be the D-80-12, one of which was owned by Jerre Haskew. Don't recall if it was a custom shop model, tho'...

If continued, perhaps this veer should move to it's own thread... so as not to detract from (or get lost in) Tx's 612 homecoming?

BTW TX... she looks real nice... enjoy!

 

[jcwu]

What a knockout!

What are the rarest Guilds that saw regular production, I wonder? (Acoustics, non-custom shop.) And how many can we account for today? (We'll surely need your assistance on this Hans!) And how many are owned by LTGers? Add to the list!


F612 -- made: 18 / accounted for: 10 / owned by LTGers: ?
JV72 -- made: 20 / accounted for: 1? / owned by LTGers: 1
GV70 -- made: 59 / accounted for: ? / owned by LTGers: 2?

JV52 -- made: 28 / accounted for: 2? 3? / owned by LTGers: 2

 

[D30Man]

TX - Not much to say that hasn't already been said sir. She looks like a hell of a guitar and I stand 6 foot 4 inches with fairly long arms, so I would be all over a jumbo like this one..
I played my first Guild 12 string at Sam Ash while I was in NYC earlier this week. It was the new WC 1512 jumbo.. It left an impression, so I can only dare to imagine how your 612 beauty rings out.. I never considered myself a 12 guy ( though some may argue that is Guild's biggest claim to fame ) but I may be coming around at some point..

 

[adorshki]

....Put on some Barry White.... I apologize but the pain pills are kicking in on the shoulder right now and my mind ain't quite right.

Yes, Barry White was certainly an unfortunate choice, could even backfire for a couple of Guild 12-strings.
Try "Wish You Were Here" instead:

 

[Zelja]

TX, congratulations! You & your luthier have done a great job. It looks fantastic & it seems you're over the moon with the way she sounds & that's even more important. Play on!

 

[GuildFS4612CE]

Yes, they're absolutely beautiful guitars...for those who are physically big enough to play them...a lot of us can only admire them...factor that into potential sales as well...at best there would be a limited market.

 

[taabru45]

You know, if I were close enough I'd volunteer to play it for you till your shoulder healed up.........completely, lol.

 

[etzeppy]

Wouldn't those be ukuleles?

My wife is a uke player. I would love to get her one of those babies.

 

[JohnW63]

Wait a sec. A pretty NEW Orpheum and a F612 ? I think there are WAY too many years between the ages of these two to be legal. That Orpheum should still be on the Sesame Street and Disney rotation.

 

[davismanLV]

That's a tough question, Glenn. I mean, rarest.... but "regular production" kinda weeds out all the S's and SR's and any special run guitar. So then, if they made very FEW but then didn't designate "special run" or anything, are they considered regular production? I'm not sure... hard to quantify, huh?

 

[davismanLV]

Wait a sec. A pretty NEW Orpheum and a F612 ? I think there are WAY too many years between the ages of these two to be legal. That Orpheum should still be on the Sesame Street and Disney rotation.

LMAO!!! Just effin' BABIES, I tell you!!!

 

[txbumper57]

That's a tough question, Glenn. I mean, rarest.... but "regular production" kinda weeds out all the S's and SR's and any special run guitar. So then, if they made very FEW but then didn't designate "special run" or anything, are they considered regular production? I'm not sure... hard to quantify, huh?

Since the F612 was only available by Custom Order would you consider it to be Regular Production?

 

[txbumper57]

Wait a sec. A pretty NEW Orpheum and a F612 ? I think there are WAY too many years between the ages of these two to be legal. That Orpheum should still be on the Sesame Street and Disney rotation.

The Orpheum was designed to be the 1930's Version of what Guild would have produced if they had been around in that time period so Naturally it Gravitates to Older women.

 

[davismanLV]

Since the F612 was only available by Custom Order would you consider it to be Regular Production?

No... I really wouldn't. It was made from .... what? 1971 to 1973? And only 6 at a whack? Maybe three times? So it's a guitar they made very few of, for only a few times, for very few years. But the qualification of "regular production" gets a little tricky, doesn't it? What would y'all consider "regular production"?? I need some input.....

 

[txbumper57]

Yes, they're absolutely beautiful guitars...for those who are physically big enough to play them...a lot of us can only admire them...factor that into potential sales as well...at best there would be a limited market.

I know that there is a Stigma with the Guild Jumbos and their size, Especially with the F612 being larger than a normal Guild Jumbo. Honestly The F612 plays as easy as my F512 or any of my Guild Dreads. There is no more advert stress playing the F612 than any other Guild I have owned or played in the standing or sitting position. My arm is not hurting this week due to the Guitar, I had a Doctors appointment on Tuesday where they pushed the shoulder past it's mobility limits in the Examination. This normally takes me a week to recover from and let the swelling subside. Surprisingly enough the F612 is relatively comfortable to play, You really don't notice the size difference unless you are looking for it.