K.O.M.A.
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Hey Maxer, you definately need to plug one of these in before buying. I won't say anything else, just be sure to hear one before you pull the trigger.
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Wonder what they would sound like with the new HB-1s?
I will definitely be plugging it in! But unless they really suck I won't worry too much. Pickups can always be changed. I've heard decent enough things about them. No, they're not like the originals, but then again that's the holy grail of pickups, ain't it?
K.O.M.A.
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Anything would be better than what's in them now.
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I'm a fan of the mini-buckers myself, but HB-1s are radically different.
I would probably like the S-100 quite a bit.
I would probably like the S-100 quite a bit.
Zelja
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You would think the current NS S-100 would sound reasonably similar to a vintage Thunderbird with the mini-hums, assuming the pickups are pretty faithful to the original.
Saying that, I came cross these guys who are offering upgrades to the NS mini-hums; http://www.ebay.com/itm/Guild-Starf...?pt=UK_Guitar_Accessories&hash=item1c3c176ca0
They claim the NS pickups are wound to 5.2k only & they upgrade to a 6.8/6.7k wound. The latter figures are definitely more consistent with my mini-hums in my SFV. Can anyone with NS mini-hums confirm the DC resistance?
Saying that, I came cross these guys who are offering upgrades to the NS mini-hums; http://www.ebay.com/itm/Guild-Starf...?pt=UK_Guitar_Accessories&hash=item1c3c176ca0
They claim the NS pickups are wound to 5.2k only & they upgrade to a 6.8/6.7k wound. The latter figures are definitely more consistent with my mini-hums in my SFV. Can anyone with NS mini-hums confirm the DC resistance?
K.O.M.A.
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Definately go by your own judgement, but play one first if you can. I went to my local Guild dealer and played one several times plugged in to just about every amp in the store and just couldn't bring myself to buy it. The salesman offered me several discounts but I still just couldn't justify it. I entertained the idea of swapping out the pickups but didn't like the idea of buying something brand new and having to sink more cash into it, especially with what I've seen the few used NS S100's on Ebay have gone for. The two I can think of off the top of my head went for less than $500 and maybe $600. I've played the NS Starfires and liked them but not the S100. Hell, even the official Guild S100 demo video on youtube sounds terrible to me. I love Guilds as much as anyone but I think they dropped the ball on the S100's.
SFIV1967
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That's a bold statement, I have not seen any such bad review of the new mini humuckers yet...Yes, the Guild official distorted video is not nice at all, I agree to this. But in all other models the new Guild mini humbuckers sounded great and very similar to the vintage version and people liked them a lot. You can't compare a Guild mini humbucker with a Guild HB-1.
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Ralf, I agree with your last sentence 100%. I'm not trying to bash Guild here, I love them as much as anyone here, but I wish they would have re-introduced the S100 with HB-1's or other full size humbuckers. The one in my local dealer hung there almost a year before someone bought it.It was also on E-bay the whole time. It had been demo'd a LOT. The condition it was in before it sold told me a lot of people tried it but didn't buy it. I think the reason for that was because it just didn't sound good. I think that if Guild wanted to re-introduce the Polara S-100 with mini-hums then they should have made it with the original "gumby" body shape. Then, when they had the new HB-1's ready they could have re-introduced the "SG" style S-100. BTW,maybe I'm wrong or wasn't paying attention but I don't recall a NS S-100 NGD where anyone was excited about the tone of their new guitar. Plenty of praise for fit and finish, weight and "feel" but not tone. I'm not trying to be "bold" or argumentative here, just stating my opinion. I really wanted to love these guitars, I just don't.
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I would think that minibuckers are *not* what the grunge/heavy rocker was looking for.
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Wake me up if they put out a T'bird re-ish.
SFIV1967
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Maury: And here I also agree 100%! And I am sorry if "bold" was not the right word in my response, as you noticed I am not living in the US. You are right, we didn't have a proper tone review of a NS S-100 yet I think.
By the way, I had talked about the to me "strange" combination of a mini humbucker in the S-100 here: http://www.letstalkguild.com/ltg/sh...ctric-models&p=1572649&viewfull=1#post1572649
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Gonzo
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Anyone actually seen any of these out in the wild yet? This is starting to feel a lot like last year ...
SFIV1967
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Shops in UK quoting delivery between April 10 and April 25 depending on model. So about 1 1/2 month to go...Thomann in Germany quotes "delivery within 2-5 days", if that is true, I don't know.
Ralf
Gonzo
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Yeah, I saw the estimate on the Andertons site. They were pretty optimistic last year with the first wave of Newark Streets, so I'd take that with a pinch of salt.
I keep looking at the Capri, but I might hold off on it for a while - just to see if they put out any colour options. If they put out one in black, like the limited Aristocrat run that appeared pretty early on, I'd be into that ...
Walter Broes
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That would be hard to resist. Add cream Franz pickups, or white topped DeArmonds...drool.
Gonzo
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Just saw the first one on eBay - the gold Aristocrat. The seller's in Houston, TX. Hopefully the rest will follow along sooner than I thought.
Gonzo
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Yeah, white topped DeArmonds would tip it right over the edge for me.
SFIV1967
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No news, the goldtop is available since a month already: http://www.letstalkguild.com/ltg/showthread.php?180309-2014-Guild-M-75-Goldtop
Ralf