RIP Jeff Beck

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Any explanation yet someone ?

Mr. Beck was always a conservative but natty dresser, the result of which is that his clothing style generally remains timeless.

In the opinion of my daughter, for whom I bought some Beck/Yardbirds records as educational material, Mr Beck was very handsome, timelessly good-looking. Had she been of the right age and in the right location in the 60s, she might have been screaming, too. She dug the Truth album.

She didn't think much of Keith, the lead singer.
 

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Mr. Beck was always a conservative but natty dresser, the result of which is that his clothing style generally remains timeless.
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So it seems I got it wrong to think I had to learn to play the guitar first, and then make good money with it in order to buy the fancy clothes that would make pretty girls scream and shout... I should have got the fancy clothes first then... Hummm, thanks LTG, I'll be a minute... You'll be able to say you've known me, and helped me making it...☺️
 

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So it seems I got it wrong to think I had to learn to play the guitar first, and then make good money with it in order to buy the fancy clothes that would make pretty girls scream and shout... I should have got the fancy clothes first then... Hummm, thanks LTG, I'll be a minute... You'll be able to say you've known me, and helped me making it...☺️


ZZ Top:

Clean shirt, new shoes​
And I don't know where I am goin' to​
Silk suit, black tie (black tie)​
I don't need a reason why​
They come runnin' just as fast as they can​
'Cause every girl crazy 'bout a sharp-dressed man​


One of the kids I used to jam with in high school was a shy, nerdy guy with coke bottle thick glasses. He was one of the most naturally gifted musicians I have ever met (I secretly hated him in my envy ;)). He had an amazing ear and memory for what he heard and could easily replicate it. He was a lovely singer. He was a very sweet, low tech lead player, all melodic exploration of the tune being played. His huge talent worked against him--he never became great because he never had to work at all at being really good. Not quite of legal age to be doing so, he got his first gig with a house band in a club, pretty much regular work. He learned their entire set list in one afternoon rehearsal. He initially looked like a total nerd on stage, and nobody paid much attention to him. His new band-mates, much older than him, got on his case about his stage image. So he bought some flash clothes. He got contact lenses. He got his hair professionally styled. He traded in his beaten up old Hagstrom for a new gold top Les Paul. Suddenly he was noticed. But nothing had changed about his excellent playing and singing. He became cougar-bait. Divorcees, straying wives, and older adventurous singles formed a queue. The experience was not entirely good for his mental health or venereal health. He developed a very unpleasant personality for a bit. "Women are like buses. If you miss one, wait cause another one will be along in 15 minutes." Then one day, he suddenly grew up, and reverted to the uber-nice guy he had previously been.

The moral of the story is that you can sell empty boxes if the boxes are well designed and colourful, and it is easier to sell quality goods with flash packaging. People often don't notice the quality goods if the packaging is bad.
 
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People often don't notice the quality goods if the packaging is bad.

Hence "Judging a book by its cover", which we all do.

Has anyone bought a single guitar truly sight unseen, only on a word?

And if it's not a Martin, Taylor, or Botique whatever, you wouldn't be seen with it, just like you wouldn't seen with anyone that reflects badly on your image, the need for a "trophy wife" because everyone is fixated with hair/skin rather than gray matter or heart, i,e. "what's inside". The packaging is all.

Can you be a be a Beck or Page if you are shy and retiring, and not pretty to boot?

This need for extrovert behavior I sadly lack. I always wanted to play for people, watch them dance, we all have our reasons, but the need for crazy stage antics isn't in me, I just play.

This works well for real live small audiences who are actually listening to the band, and could care less about onstage flash or perceived charisma or lack thereof.
 
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Hence "Judging a book by its cover", which we all do.

Yes, to greater or lesser extent and often to our own detriment.

The packaging is all.

Absolutely not. But it is of some importance.

Milli Vanilli was entirely packaging without musical substance--they had only short term success at best.

Grooming and clothing choices are reflections of self esteem, self confidence, self regard, self respect, etc -- things of the self that are important in healthy moderation. The world reads you (the book) from your appearance (your cover). People with healthy selves are charismatic.

But of course, you can con the world, at least for a while.

Back to the point of Mr. Beck. He generally dressed casually but neatly and with some style. His self might have been a bit beyond healthy, but he definitely had substance. It was a good combination. My daughter, having listened to his 60s playing (which she greatly appreciated) and having looked at his photos, found his then image very attractive. She thought him a very handsome man. Had she lived in the UK in he 60s as a teenager, she might have been screaming in the audience, too.
 

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I already have the Blue Suede Shoes, bought them coz no-one willing to get them, they ended up selling for very cheap...The hardest would be to dare wearing them now... 🥲
I told you, I'd be a minute ! ☺️
 

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Can you be a be a Beck or Page if you are shy and retiring, and not pretty to boot?

Maybe not, but you could be a Keith Richards.

Go watch Charlie is My Darling, the documentary film of an early Stones tour of Ireland. Keith Richards is this shy little kid hiding in the shadow of the megalomaniac. Often times he plays with his back to the audience.
 

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she might have been screaming in the audience, too.

Oddly enough, just the other day a friend's wife who's Dad passed away at 99 and needed to talk and tell me how great he was says he took her to see the Beatles at Shea Stadium, but she "didn't go hysterical" which right in front of her Dad would have been awkward and vice versa.
 

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Back to Jeff, he's not over yet.

"I also marveled at how a number of Beck’s peers and fellow guitarists alike described his playing in painterly terms by deeming him as alternately the Salvador Dali and Pablo Picasso of the instrument. These are indeed good comparisons, since one could say Beck’s style was a merger of cubism — creating three-dimensional ideas in a two-dimensional space — and Dadaism, an avant-garde precursor to the surrealist movement wherein the traditional, logical elements of artistic intent were quite literally turned on their heads."

 

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Yes, to greater or lesser extent and often to our own detriment.



Absolutely not. But it is of some importance.

Milli Vanilli was entirely packaging without musical substance--they had only short term success at best.

Grooming and clothing choices are reflections of self esteem, self confidence, self regard, self respect, etc -- things of the self that are important in healthy moderation. The world reads you (the book) from your appearance (your cover). People with healthy selves are charismatic.

But of course, you can con the world, at least for a while.

Back to the point of Mr. Beck. He generally dressed casually but neatly and with some style. His self might have been a bit beyond healthy, but he definitely had substance. It was a good combination. My daughter, having listened to his 60s playing (which she greatly appreciated) and having looked at his photos, found his then image very attractive. She thought him a very handsome man. Had she lived in the UK in he 60s as a teenager, she might have been screaming in the audience, too.
Mickie Most wanted to promote him in the Donovan/Herman's Hermit's mold (whom he also managed). Thus the first 2 solo singles, "Love Is Blue" and "Hi-Ho Silver Lining" which sound nothing like anything before or after.
 
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