Tesla Warranty

[FNG]

Running Michelins on both my pickup and my VW GTI. Great tires.

 

[adorshki]

In all honesty, I firmly believe that Michelin is often (depending on car / tire size and type) the best tire one can slap on his production car, but I also firmly believe that they are not always the best bang for the buck.

Yeah but then we get away from running joke of mercilessly tweaking each other about our tire brand loyalties.

There is one brand I will never ever touch again however: Firestone. I will never put that crap on one of my cars again. But that's a whole other story, involving tire deformation after 4 months on the car etc...

But, but, but, isn't that a warranty story? I mean, isn't that a golden opportunity to get back on topic?
And speaking of long term cost and wear, what about that Florida state law preventing owners from rotating their tires if one axle's pair is too far gone compared to the other?
Doesn't CharlieA deserve to be brought up to speed on your findings in that little fiasco?
(At last post, he still thinks it really is a law)
I mean, c'mon, where's your public spirit?
Just 'cause ya drive a hot car doesn't automatically make you socially irresponsible.
THAT part comes from being a blues musician.
Oh, yeah, the Milan OEM tires were Michelins, and when I bought it they looked pretty good (low mileage). (AWD Automatically gets 17" rims, and not a whole lot of makers out there for my specific size, it turns out)
SO I woulda given 'em a fair chance, but when I managed to pinch a sidewall (Not repairable and not the tire's fault) and checked with my long-time tire provider, I got a little strangled at a $220.00 replacement cost myself, no mileage warranty either.
WTH, back to my known proven experience with Bridgestones, full new set w/ mileage and road hazard warranties.

 

[bluesypicky]

Firestone as a whole I will never touch again. Went there for brake service once, and bought a "lifetime package". Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me! (Read about the ordeal here).

What a scam.... rotors replacement is part of any brake job typically, unless you're lucky enough to find a shop willing to resurface, and there are less and less of those, due to the risks associated with resurfacing.

Nice seeing your mug Jason!

 

[adorshki]

Also of note is that I got over 80,000 miles out of the set of Michelin LTX AT2 tires that were on my last Sprinter, after the OEM Contis didn't even make it to 30,000.

I am suitably impressed.
I gotta ask though, did it ever see more than 60 mph?
And do you practice the "get off the gas w-a-a-a-y before you expect to have to use the brakes" philosophy?
:smile:

 

[bluesypicky]

Yeah but then we get away from running joke of mercilessly tweaking each other about our tire brand loyalties.

Well given the overwhelming unanimous support for Michelin, there won't be much poking necessary anymore, so let's get over with it, and admit that they are the best tires. Publicly will you? layful:
(And no worries: plenty of potential poking left between us...ever heard of this crappy guitarist?... Santa sumethin;?...)

And speaking of long term cost and wear, what about that Florida state law preventing owners from rotating their tires if one axle's pair is too far gone compared to the other?
Doesn't CharlieA deserve to be brought up to speed on your findings in that little fiasco?
(At last post, he still thinks it really is a law)
I mean, c'mon, where's your public spirit?

Eh eh eh..... apologies for keeping y'all hanging and desperately waiting for a settlement on that issue, and here it comes:
There is absolutely no such law in the state of Florida (as I believe our friend FNG correctly suggested), and I received an apologetic explanation from the store manager, along with a free coupon for my next oil change or........ tire rotation!

He said that he was sorry for the misinformation, that it is not a law, but a Pep Boys policy.
I let him know that he might want to coach his employees so that they would stop lying to customers, and expressed my frustration for having wasted time and money in an oil change that I would have done myself as I always do, since I ended up having to rotate the tires myself, because of their lies. Jokers....

 

[bluesypicky]

Just 'cause ya drive a hot car doesn't automatically make you socially irresponsible.
THAT part comes from being a blues musician.

I'm offended. As a hot car driver.

 

[Default]

I am suitably impressed.
I gotta ask though, did it ever see more than 60 mph?
And do you practice the "get off the gas w-a-a-a-y before you expect to have to use the brakes" philosophy?
:smile:

He's from New York. He thinks braking occurs when you t-bone the other driver!

 

[mavuser]

I so hoped this thread had something to do with the band Tesla, and their arsenal of Guilds.

Well, now it does.

 

[mavuser]

 

[adorshki]

What a scam.... rotors replacement is part of any brake job typically, unless you're lucky enough to find a shop willing to resurface, and there are less and less of those, due to the risks associated with resurfacing.

Beg to differ. ASsuming good quality steel, it's all about whether or not they're still thick enough to re-surface. WITH OEM rotors you should be able to get at least 2 resurfaces before worrying about replacing rotors.
Part 2 of equation is pad material, some pads may generate more heat leading to warpage on what may be "in spec but close to the limit" rotors.
I had a pair of xxxxxx-made (non-japanese asian import) drums installed on an RX-7 once that came machined out-of-round out of the box (and the installers didn't check 'em before installing) and then AFTER being machined to true started cracking within 3000 mile simply due to being cheap steel. At the time I had to go for max economy and didn't know about such things, it was a learning experience. The shop ate both costs after some vigorous prodding each time(10kmi warranty)
Anyway, steel quality is EVERYTHING when it comes to rotors, and perhaps that's why Pascal's experiencing reluctant providers of rotor turning, maybe they can't know if they're gonna be trying to shine up aftermarket s--t until they've wasted time trying?
I've been very impressed with Ford's' OEM brake durability on both the T-Bird and the Milan for example.
The dealer will machine if appropriate, as well as my preferred specialist shop.
I won't trust chain operations to those kinds of things anymore regardess of their franchise name, after several bad experiences similar to Jason's.
And yours. (Florida anti-rotation law story)
Admittedly different rules may apply in the ultra high perfomance niche because the rotors may be subject to "severe operating conditions".
Prehaps there's an assumption any metal that has any possibility of being heat-stressed should be replaced.
In F1 they use carbon-fiber rotors now, they tend to glow hot orange red just before they shatter.
And they don't ever bother to re-surface 'em.
:excitement:

 

[adorshki]

I'm offended. As a hot car driver.

Yeah but hot car drivers don't get no respeck.
Blues musicians do.

 

[adorshki]

I so hoped this thread had something to do with the band Tesla, and their arsenal of Guilds.
Well, now it does.

Bravo Bravo magnificent veer.

 

[bluesypicky]

Good voice. And nice 412 (and Songbird?)

Incidentally, it is interesting to note that we now have a post with Guild content, on LTG, that qualifies as a "veer".
Gotta be a first. :applause:

Ah! Al beat me to the veer notice I see..... lol

 

[mavuser]

Thanks guys. since you are into it here is a third video (and a third Guild!)



the entire show is on youtube, which is the video of the legendary Tesla album, "Five Man Acoustical Jam."

 

[adorshki]

... and admit that they are the best tires. Publicly will you? layful:

OOOOHHHH>>>>Evil hearted you!!!.
If I say "no" then everybody'll wonder if that means I would, in private.
I'd call you Machiavellian except they were mere Italians and obviously can't hold a candle to a Frenchman for sheer deviance, err, deviousness.
:cocksure:

 

[Default]

This is a travesty of veerage. How the heck did we get so far off topic? <lol>

 

[adorshki]

Good voice. And nice 412 (and Songbird?)

Yeah Songbird.
No "Piehole" soundhole.

 

[jcwu]

I'm offended. As a hot car driver.

Hot car-driver? Or hot-car driver?

 

[adorshki]

This is a travesty of veerage. How the heck did we get so far off topic? <lol>

And we still haven't even started to explore the zombie banking problem yet, either.
So many veers.
So little time.

 

[bluesypicky]

Hot car-driver? Or hot-car driver?

Hmmmmm.... curved ball.

Al: Do you think I'm sexy? Or it's the Vette you're after?...