We now play Yamahas

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To be fair, what other brand with money, distribution and decades of experience be better to buy Guild than Yamaha? No way would they sunset the brand. It will be just another line they carry. You think they maintain US production in Oxnard?
Personally, I think that they will be looking to maintain and possibly expand Oxnard production. Maybe add some premium electrics :unsure: It's the overseas production where I could see some models being cut, with a bit more overlap with Yamaha's other ranges.
I should get some new strings for my old Yamaha classical!;)
 

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Everybody's going through changes...

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Reminds me of this from Alan Price.



With appropriate Guild content :cool:
 

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I've got a fifty-year-old bone to pick with Yamaha. Before I knew anything about guitars, my first exposure to the company was in 1969 when I started riding motorcycles. They were annoyingly tinny-sounding little two-strokes back then, and I wouldn't have given you two cents for one - except for one thing. I absolutely loved the logo on the gas tank! Aesthetics have always been a major draw in my various hobbies, and I thought that logo was just the coolest looking thing. However at the time, I had no idea that the Yamaha logo actually represented three intersecting tuning forks. I only knew that I found it very pleasantly attractive.

Two years later in 1971, a college buddy had shown me a few chords, and off I went to buy my first guitar. In the music store, I was immediately drawn to the body shape of the Yamaha FG-160, it's tortoise pickguard shape, and oh my god, that same cool logo beautifully residing all by itself on the peghead. To my eyes, it was the most attractive instrument in the room. I did indeed buy the Yamaha, but sadly it was stolen from my home a few years later. When I went out to replace the guitar, the current FG-160 looked exactly the same except for one thing: under that lovely peghead logo sat unelegantly the name - YAMAHA.

Yes, I was fully dismayed that the company did not recognize that they had completely ruined the singular aesthetic appeal of their beautiful logo by lazily slapping their toy-like name underneath it! Given the fact that in the past fifty years these numbskulls have still not figured this out, I sadly have to say, the future of our beloved Guild may be teetering precariously towards the abyss.
 

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This is Yamaha's chance to leverage the Guild name in the archtop and semi-hollow arena. Yamaha's offerings were high quality but never got traction. Guild has the name. It's the flattops I'm worried about. So much overlap.
 

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Maybe they can find those 16" F-body bucks.
We can only hope. Of course, if they find them they need to use them to make guitars, not put them into storage, destroy them or sell them.
 
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Too bad Guild didn’t find its way back to the original Dronge family who own DR Strings. Now that would have been something.
 

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Why speculate; just ask
I think the reality is that Yamaha doesn't completely know what they are going to do yet. They might have some short term things they will do, but probably not for the long term issues. Having worked for companies that went through several mergers/acquisitions this is usually the case.
 

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Guild has had a bumpy road with multiple owners and multiple manufacturing plants.
Yes. And has "Guild" really been "Guild" since the U-haul pulled out of Rhode Island, or even Hoboken? There are bunches of Ford Mustangs rolling around which look like the '69 I used to own, but there is really nothing "Mustang" about these cars. They may be better than the '69 I owned (at least they are not prone to "Mustang Rott"), but they are not really "Mustangs" to me. Glass-half-empty sort of guy here, too. By the way, I've owned several Yamaha acoustics (including classicals) and they have been fine instruments.
 
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To be fair, what other brand with money, distribution and decades of experience be better to buy Guild than Yamaha? No way would they sunset the brand. It will be just another line they carry. You think they maintain US production in Oxnard?
You are exactly correct. Yamaha has been around for ever and knows how to run a successful operation. Unless they can run Guild's US operations like they do in Japan............Sayonara!!

Just did a quick Google search and Yamaha closed all their musical manufacturing plants in 2007, not good news.

 

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I wonder how much the Cordoba line entered into this. Yamaha has had a presence in the classical guitar world since their first instruments in the '40s, and at one time even marketed a concert level instrument (Konrad Ragossnig played one in the '70s). If the chatter on the DelCamp classical forum is any indication, Cordoba had made inroads into a field that Yamaha had dominated for a long time, intro level guitars for serious classical students.
 

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I've got a fifty-year-old bone to pick with Yamaha. Before I knew anything about guitars, my first exposure to the company was in 1969 when I started riding motorcycles. They were annoyingly tinny-sounding little two-strokes back then, and I wouldn't have given you two cents for one - except for one thing.

my first bike was a 1972-3 Yamaha 175cc 2-stroke Enduro... I currently own a 1971 CT1 175 and 1967 YR1 350... both annoyingly tinny-sounding little 2-strokes :D

I also moderate a forum devoted to all things vintage 2-stroke Yamaha :cool:
 

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Didn't see this coming.....
Man, you can say that again! And it seems like Oxnard just got up and running, but I guess it has been several years now.

I've always had Yamaha synths and quite liked them (and continue to like my Motif XS. Yamaha is one huge company. And the big just get bigger. Having worked many years ago in the antitrust division of the very large law department of Southern California Edison, I always wonder about that aspect. So Yamaha bought up one competitor, but it's not like they don't have plenty of other competitors! I guess capitalist countries are slowly headed toward corporatocracies anyway, so.... so it goes. Poo-tee-weet? as Vonnegut would say.

What all this means, and will mean, I surely have no idea. It certainly does not diminish the pleasure I get from the instruments I have, which, I guess, is the important thing!
 

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IMHO, it doesn't really accomplish much (although it is fun) to speculate about what we can't possibly know. Although I admit to being a crusty, old curmudgeon, I also tend to be eternally optimistic and I'm going to do that in this case as well. I'll give them the benefit of the doubt for now but if they mess with (a little bit is ok) or screw up my beloved acoustic models they will quickly go on my "bad list".
 

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I just asked Guild,
Do you know what direction Yamaha is planning to take Guild in?
Is it a case where if I want a certain Guild I better get it now while I can?
Thanks for the info.
Hopefully they will respond.
 
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“Córdoba Music Group’s brands, in particular their flagship Córdoba and Guild lines, are revered throughout the world. We are honored to take on the next phase in maintaining and evolving these beloved brands.

Yamaha Guitar Group, Inc., a U.S. subsidiary of Japan-based Yamaha Corporation, is apparently based out in Calabasas, CA.
 

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You are exactly correct. Yamaha has been around for ever and knows how to run a successful operation. Unless they can run Guild's US operations like they do in Japan............Sayonara!!

Just did a quick Google search and Yamaha closed all their musical manufacturing plants in 2007, not good news.

This is what I been wondering too, Silver. So you think Yamaha embraces the Guild MIC lines as they do ok at GC and Sweetwater etc and then stop US production? Is that Yamaha's SOP?
 

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This sounds optimistic however:

“We’re thrilled to be making this announcement,” said Joe Bentivegna, President of Yamaha Guitar Group. “Córdoba Music Group’s brands, in particular their flagship Córdoba and Guild lines, are revered throughout the world. We are honored to take on the next phase in maintaining and evolving these beloved brands.”
 
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As I just posted on AGF:

I think this is actually terrible news. :/

I would have been a lot happier to read "Martin Acquires Guild," or something along those lines.

No knock on Yamahas; they are fine guitars. I just hate to see a small US-based company that produces quality products get swallowed up by a foreign corporate giant.

And to this I will add:

Why didn't they make a deal with Larrivee, their next door neighbor in Oxnard? I better get my butt in gear and find myself a US made Guild soon, or else I'm looking at getting another Martin.
 

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What was that keyboard called back in the 80's the DX7 or something? That was all the rage and THE keyboard to have among pros.
 
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