Guildedagain
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New here, got the Guild bug again... in two parts ;-) 1990 D4-12NT vs F-112?
New here, got the Guild bug again...
Just picked up a Guild in my endless quest for guitars... Wasn't trying to buy it, made a minimum bid on a D4-12NT on feeBay, no-one else wanted it apparently, and it is on the way here. Serial number checks out as a 1990. Very early number. Sooo... why didn't anybody want this guitar, and wth did I just buy?
Reviews and videos are actually excellent, so it's a good guitar that is simply not desirable? Or this one just happens to have some dark cloud over it? As I was talking to the seller on the phone about tracking this am (he's in FL, I'm in WA "The EverGreen State" ;-) , literally, lightning flashed (great time to be on a land line, right? ;-) and the house shook from the thunder, what a strange omen... ;-)
Anyway, the bad part of all this is I'm seriously GASSING for a different 12 string, a late 70's F112 I had found in my searches, really more up my alley as far as it's "vintage entourage" would be, my '72 Martin D-28, some other assorted junk, '72 metal Dobro, more assorted junk, Teles, Strats, Danos, Ampeg/Marshall amps, etc...
So, the D4 is a Dreadnaught, made from halfway decent woods, and is somewhat vintage, and is supposed to be quite playable with low action. The other guitar looks way cooler, might not play as well, although despite the usual wear it seems to have no issues, and the seller is a dealer, so experienced in selling guitars.
My burning question is...
What the F is a (pardon the pun please ;-) is an F122, and to answer my own question it is the bottom of the line of the "12" series, culminating with the ever popular, and PRICEY F512, but... my real question is?
Just how good does an F112 SOUND, compared to a 212? And am I to assume there was a 312, 412?
All I've seen listed or discussed (Actually, Wikipedia has a great list of Guild Artists, including Townsend, etc, he played a 512, lots of other guys/gals too, and 212's but I don't recall seeing other models in the F range, except for, wait? The other F range, F-30 etc, now I'm really confused?
Are the F-30, etc, bigger bodied "jumbo" guitars? The F series look like they are all the same body shape, to me, F-30, F-512, etc. What is the difference there, just cosmetics?
So, wow... delving into this world of Guild (old Guilds, I have no interest in new guitars, or anything newer than late 90's in fact) is both highly educational, and still confusing.
Which lead me here to get answers.
I feel "Guilded again" because I had a pretty intense love affair with a Guild Dreadnaught once, don't quite remember what it was, a D-35 I think, I still have pictures of it, taken with a film camera if that tells you anything...
I had bought it at a somewhat legendary local Pawnshop (RIP Dutch's), always colorful in there... grouchy owner... bad deals, in fact, their sign out front read "Surly Staff, Poor Selection, High Prices" LOLOLLOLLLLL and it was actually pretty much true... so funny... but I digress.
I had bought the Guild there, $600-700 I don't remember exactly, and it needed a little tlc, and I gave it tlc, lots, made my own bone saddle, maybe the nut also, can't quite remember, but I fussed, and I fussed, until it sounded beautiful, and played great!
Then I got bored with it...
I swear, you take a mechanic type guy like me, and half the fun is the project, and then you're bored with it afterwards... (plus, I'm horrible on the guitar and I don't deserve a guitar this good...) so I stuck it on eBay, bout 10 years ago or so (high price, of course ;-), and Dang It, somebody bought it, but... the cool part was that the "bloke" was in Merrie Olde England and was a personal/recording/gigging/songwriting mate of none other than Ray and whatever his brother's name is Davies, of "little known" Kinks fame, so that was very very cool.
But I still miss the Old Guild, "the one that got away"...
End of Part 1, see next post for part two, it would not let me submit it, "over 10000 characters"...
Part 1
New here, got the Guild bug again...
Just picked up a Guild in my endless quest for guitars... Wasn't trying to buy it, made a minimum bid on a D4-12NT on feeBay, no-one else wanted it apparently, and it is on the way here. Serial number checks out as a 1990. Very early number. Sooo... why didn't anybody want this guitar, and wth did I just buy?
Reviews and videos are actually excellent, so it's a good guitar that is simply not desirable? Or this one just happens to have some dark cloud over it? As I was talking to the seller on the phone about tracking this am (he's in FL, I'm in WA "The EverGreen State" ;-) , literally, lightning flashed (great time to be on a land line, right? ;-) and the house shook from the thunder, what a strange omen... ;-)
Anyway, the bad part of all this is I'm seriously GASSING for a different 12 string, a late 70's F112 I had found in my searches, really more up my alley as far as it's "vintage entourage" would be, my '72 Martin D-28, some other assorted junk, '72 metal Dobro, more assorted junk, Teles, Strats, Danos, Ampeg/Marshall amps, etc...
So, the D4 is a Dreadnaught, made from halfway decent woods, and is somewhat vintage, and is supposed to be quite playable with low action. The other guitar looks way cooler, might not play as well, although despite the usual wear it seems to have no issues, and the seller is a dealer, so experienced in selling guitars.
My burning question is...
What the F is a (pardon the pun please ;-) is an F122, and to answer my own question it is the bottom of the line of the "12" series, culminating with the ever popular, and PRICEY F512, but... my real question is?
Just how good does an F112 SOUND, compared to a 212? And am I to assume there was a 312, 412?
All I've seen listed or discussed (Actually, Wikipedia has a great list of Guild Artists, including Townsend, etc, he played a 512, lots of other guys/gals too, and 212's but I don't recall seeing other models in the F range, except for, wait? The other F range, F-30 etc, now I'm really confused?
Are the F-30, etc, bigger bodied "jumbo" guitars? The F series look like they are all the same body shape, to me, F-30, F-512, etc. What is the difference there, just cosmetics?
So, wow... delving into this world of Guild (old Guilds, I have no interest in new guitars, or anything newer than late 90's in fact) is both highly educational, and still confusing.
Which lead me here to get answers.
I feel "Guilded again" because I had a pretty intense love affair with a Guild Dreadnaught once, don't quite remember what it was, a D-35 I think, I still have pictures of it, taken with a film camera if that tells you anything...
I had bought it at a somewhat legendary local Pawnshop (RIP Dutch's), always colorful in there... grouchy owner... bad deals, in fact, their sign out front read "Surly Staff, Poor Selection, High Prices" LOLOLLOLLLLL and it was actually pretty much true... so funny... but I digress.
I had bought the Guild there, $600-700 I don't remember exactly, and it needed a little tlc, and I gave it tlc, lots, made my own bone saddle, maybe the nut also, can't quite remember, but I fussed, and I fussed, until it sounded beautiful, and played great!
Then I got bored with it...
I swear, you take a mechanic type guy like me, and half the fun is the project, and then you're bored with it afterwards... (plus, I'm horrible on the guitar and I don't deserve a guitar this good...) so I stuck it on eBay, bout 10 years ago or so (high price, of course ;-), and Dang It, somebody bought it, but... the cool part was that the "bloke" was in Merrie Olde England and was a personal/recording/gigging/songwriting mate of none other than Ray and whatever his brother's name is Davies, of "little known" Kinks fame, so that was very very cool.
But I still miss the Old Guild, "the one that got away"...
End of Part 1, see next post for part two, it would not let me submit it, "over 10000 characters"...
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