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richardp69

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What is the term used for an acoustic with a 2 piece top where one side is visibly different than the other?? Usually, lighter or darker. It's been discussed here before but like I said in the heading of the post...................
 

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And why not runout, like you runout and bought another guitar, or this.

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And why not runout, like you runout and bought another guitar, or this.

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Now you're speaking my language Guilded. 40 years of dealing with "runout" regarding machine parts at an enormous machine shop. Sometimes parts didn't work, like shafts, due to runout. It would knock out pump seals.:)

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"Runout" it is, though I'm not convinced it's a bad thing.

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It's a bad thing. Very odd. We like symmetry, like Denzel or Brad, this also makes one's chances of mating a lot higher, better genes, and probably better jeans.

I've never had a guitar with the [perceived] problem in decades of wanton guitar acquisition.

But tonally, what does it do for tone, because the two side aren't perfectly the same the way they reflect light I'm thinking it's the same with tone?
 

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My Orpheum OM could be the poster child for runout.

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Ralf insists that this top is bookmatched, but I still don't see it. The guitar sounds so good (best OM I've ever played, even if it is closer to a 0000 size), that i just close my eyes and listen when I play it.
 

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My Orpheum OM could be the poster child for runout.

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Ralf insists that this top is bookmatched, but I still don't see it. The guitar sounds so good (best OM I've ever played, even if it is closer to a 0000 size), that i just close my eyes and listen when I play it.
wow, that difference in top shades is really remarkable, Sandy. I am sure you love your Orf, but did Ren not consider that as a factory 2nd? Is Runout like Bearclaw?
 

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wow, that difference in top shades is really remarkable, Sandy. I am sure you love your Orf, but did Ren not consider that as a factory 2nd? Is Runout like Bearclaw?
When I initially bought it, I thought it never should have left the factory like that. An Adirondack top like this would probably be acceptable on a $1K Eastman, but not on a super high end custom shop guitar, and I still feel that way. Of course at the time, the New Hartford plant was in a state of total upheaval, so that might have had something to do with it.

Foolishly, I returned the guitar to Carl at Union Music, thinking I'd be able to find another, which never happened. I ended up buying the OM 14 Fret rosewood NAMM prototype, but it just wasn't the same as the mahogany version. This guitar somehow ended up with Rocky at StreetSoundsNYC, and fellow LTGer @jeffcoop bought it. He kindly sold it back to me a couple of years ago when he was downsizing, and I am very grateful to Jeff to have it back, funny looking top and all.
 

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I'll pay a premium for bearclaw.
so runout is not considered as worthy as bear claw, good to know Richard.

anyway, I like the look Sandy, and since it does not impact the tone, and you love it, bought it twice so to speak, well that alone speaks for itself. So you have (had) a Guild with the shortest saddle known to man and now the most runout Guild known to man. you're kind of like on an island.
 

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so runout is not considered as worthy as bear claw, good to know Richard.

anyway, I like the look Sandy, and since it does not impact the tone, and you love it, bought it twice so to speak, well that alone speaks for itself. So you have (had) a Guild with the shortest saddle known to man and now the most runout Guild known to man. you're kind of like on an island.
Still have them both, but the DV72 has a much taller saddle now! Wonderful as it is, I'm still having a hard time bonding with it, though.
 

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Still have them both, but the DV72 has a much taller saddle now! Wonderful as it is, I'm still having a hard time bonding with it, though.
I remember another LTGer said if you didn't bond with it, he would buy it. Regardless, it won't last long on the LTG if you do decide to part with it.
 
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